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09 November 2008

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Schumey

McCain is a true blue bigot and he knows it. Candidates running for the highest office of the land must at all times act, think and speak properly. He displayed genuine and oure disdain against Obama not because he is his opponent but because of the color of his skin.

McCain is a very good actor and his concession speech shows it.

solomonsydelle

I completely understand where you are coming from. I have the same issues about Bill Clinton and some of things he said about Obama when he was campaigning on Hillary's behalf.

The key, I feel, is to keep these things in mind. Do not forget them, and prepare to hear them again, the minute the Republicans and others have a chance. Then, there will be no need to play politics as usual a much there will be a need to quickly, intelligently and strategically squash any nonsense they serve.

So, we are all the wiser and hopefully the better. We'll be read next time and will disarm them.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this matter.

Dr. Lumplevin

We'll be read next time and will disarm them. Hopefully we can get rid of the 10% of the Press, not to speak of applying the Fairness Doctrine to shut them up for good. Everybody who spoke against or speaks against Pres. Obama are all racists and need to be jailed for hate crimes.

These people and their endless criticizing are a danger to our country, freedom and Constitution!

Relevant Rhino

I'm going to assume the Dr. is being snarky, because if he isn't, well, I don't even want to think about that...

You deal with racism and racists the same way you deal with anyone else who's opinions are deluded and invalid...ignore them and refuse to give their organizations any kind of credible outlet with which to spill their vitriol. Or laugh in their fucking faces, either way, don't give credence to their bullshit.

nicole

Very thoughtful responses, I must say. Loved the snark, Dr. Lumplevin. Thanks everyone. :)

Carl

Racism and bigotry hae no place in a modern freedom loving society.

I feel the same way about racists as I do about thse people who campaigned so effectively for proposition 8. These people need to be confronted at every moment that they expose their bigotry. People like McCain, Palin, and their supporters need to be shoved right out of politics, they have no place anywhere near the White House, the Hill, your nation's highest courts, or at any level of government or the judiciary.

Dan Brantley

What is most interesting to me is that neither side saw the plank in their own eye. The smallest slight or misstatement by one side was taken by the other as an excuse to print the vilest most vicious gossip and rumors that could be found.
Why each party felt the need to promote their own agenda by castigating the other, is the question I have. And this goes beyond just negative campaigning, there was very little investigation to discover the who, what and how about a candidate - but an awful lot of investigation simply for the purpose of pointing out flaws and a contrived resemblance to the Devil incarnate.
And if called on it. Each justified this character assasination by pointing to equally vile and untrue statements by the other side. Rumors were repeated by enough people that they became "fact." And by carefully phrasing stories and "reports" inuendo replaced competent well thought out and balanced reporting.
I know blogs are a place to vent and rail against the topic-du-jour. But the volume was raised so loud that I just quit listening. And I imagine I am not the only one.
And to what result? Although the electoral college was pretty clear-cut, the popular vote showed much less of a split. So how many people did three months of pure bile disguised as "truth" actually convince?
Perhaps candidates, and their parties (if affiliated) should have a pre-set small spending limit, whether they raise it themselves or take the federal campaign funds. With very limited funds hard choices would have to be made about whether it is best to spend precious time getting your message out, or blow your budget attacking your opponent.

And after all the sturm and drang,
Your side (whichever one it is)
is not nearly as good as you would like to believe,
And the other side is not nearly as evil as you would like others to believe.

But finally let me say, Thank God for the USA. As messy, flawed, bitter and stupid all this was and is, we manage to survive it every four years and continue. We truly are a beacon of light for the world, as dim and yellowed as it might be from time to time.

 nicole

Carl, of course I completely agree. And, it is very sad that people do not understand that until we all view each other as interdependent and forgo the racist crap, we are destined to be caught up in wars and internal struggles.

 nicole

Dan, I agree that it was a vitriolic election cycle. However, the vitriol came primarily from the far right. Obama never played the cards he could have, he stayed above it.

And yes, when all is said and done, we do survive it. Albeit with very different viewpoints. :)

Dan Brantley

Now, now Nicole, Watch out for that plank.

Go back and read some of your blog headlines over the past few weeks/months. Swap Obama for McCain, And Biden for Plain and see how fair they sound.

"But what I said was TRUE!" you'll argue.

Here's an example: If a man accidentally runs over a dog on a foggy night. Both of the following headlines could be TRUE:

"Dog accidentally hit by pick-up on dark road."

"Man viciously crushes defenseless puppy to death with huge gas guzzling SUV."

One is stating facts and letting readers decide for themselves.
And the other is attempting to sway opinion by selectively spinning the description.

But then again the name of your blog is "Inspire Emotion"

It has been a pleasure swapping comments with you. And I applaud your publishing my differing opinion. Let's see what the next four years bring.

nicole

You make a good point, Dan. :) HOWEVER, I must point out a few things:
1. I never claimed to be impartial.
2. I did write with an eye toward electing Obama because I felt that the alternative could literally be deadly.
3. The McCain Campaign gave us much ammunition, primarily in the form of the most unqualified candidate for high office ever -- Governor Palin.
4. Obama did not participate in the mudslinging. In fact, he did not even respond to it most of the time. Which is a good thing.
5. The GOP ramped the mudslinging up to a point where it was arguably the worst we had seen in a national election. And, they did not tell the truth. They lied. And lied. And lied.
6. I make no apologies for responding as I did. I was motivated by fear, and by a sense of fairness. I believe that Americans gave their own opinions on November 4.

Now, I have a question for you, Dan. After all that we have learned, do you honestly feel that Sarah Palin was an acceptable candidate for veep? And if so, why.

An American in France

I was very upset by the mudslinging. When Obama made a statement regarding his religion being Christian based instead of Muslim, I wish he would have said, "So what if I was Muslim." I know that would have hurt his chances with those who either bigots or ill-informed, but would have made changes in the way mudslinging in elections is.

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